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The KUNM news team's coverage of the 2020 legislative session and its impacts

No More Normal: When Piggy Banks Fly

Eva Avenue
Money paintings / September 2019

We get into what money really is. We take a dive into a bill that looks to create a public bank. We talk with a member of a financial innovation group about how universal basic income has helped businesses during the pandemic. We grapple with student loans. We hear the journey of how difficult it is to start a business as a pandemic is raging. And we have a talk with the secretary of workforce solutions about where the jobs are going to be.

In episode 20 we are talking about money: you may know it as cash, moolah, greenbacks, cheese (cheddar to be specific), loot, coin, lettuce, or if you are a fan of the 90’s, duckets. We take a look at our economy during the pandemic and ask some questions about the nature of money.

Credit Eva Avenue
Money painting / September 2019


YOUR NM GOV: A bill proposing a public bank for New Mexico is making its way through the Senate. Anglea Merkert is the Executive Director for the Alliance Of Local Economic Prosperity, a think tank. She joins us this week to talk about what that could look like here.



  • Jazztone The Producer, Cheo, Dahm Life, Oh Lawd Records and Business School for providing music for the show.
  • Artist Eva Avenue for the artwork on the post. Find her work at: evaavenue.com
  • Megan Kamerick for her contribution
  • Taylor Velazquez for managing our socials and generating ideas, and for her contribution this week

We dedicate this and every episode to the memory of Hannah Colton. We love and miss you Hannah.



No More Normal is brought to you by Your New Mexico Government, a collaboration between KUNM, New Mexico PBS and the Santa Fe Reporter. Funding for our coverage comes from the New Mexico Local News Fund, the Kellogg Foundation and KUNM listeners like you, with support for public media provided by the Thornburg Foundation.


Marisa Demarco began a career in radio at KUNM News in late 2013 and covered public health for much of her time at the station. During the pandemic, she is also the executive producer for Your NM Government and No More Normal, shows focused on the varied impacts of COVID-19 and community response, as well as racial and social justice. She joined Source New Mexico as editor-in-chief in 2021.
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